Subject: ready to implement message board and web counter
   Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000
   From: clement chui
 
Hi Kam Wah,

How's your luck in publishing your educational toolkit?
 
I attended a CGI scripting course last Saturday, spent several days in revision
and is now ready to implement a simple message board and a simple web counter.
 
I'll have to work all out in the coming weeks on writing web-based MC questions for
Chinese History. Then I'll finish the projects before Ka Kui arrives Sydney so that they
can bring back the memorial brochures and CDs.
 
Keep in touch.

Man Keung

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Subject: Hak Wing
    Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000
   From: Charles Lam

Dear Man Keung,

Will respond to your email later.

Hak Wing called me a few days ago. He came to HK for a week (!) for shopping for some items for his restaurant business and is flying back to Switzerland this weekend. If so, he would not be able to attend Jim's mother's funeral.

Most likely I would meet him tomorrow night (18th). Anything I should tell him apart from telling the recent developments and asking for Hak Shun's address?

regards,

Charles
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From: clement chui
Date: 18 August 2000

  Dear Kam Wah,
 
Just tell Hak Wing to give us their correspondence details.
 I'll mail the brochure and CD direct to them when they are
  completed in mid of September. Ask him whether he and
  Hak Shun and their children want an email box and what
  user names they prefer. How about hakwing@kamching.com or hchiu@kamching.com

  Could you please call Ka Lun for his photo to be inserted
  in the brochure and also the article of Ka Yan. They should
  reach me by early September.

  I'll ask Dollarhost to assign an virtual address of my Chinese
  project eg http://chistory.kamching.com and/or
  http://chinese.kamching.com ( may need to pay for the setup)
  and give away some email addresses to a number of subscribers.
  You could also consider registering an virtual address for your
  community commitment and/or christian fellowship. You could
  now design your forms, guestbook or questionnairs on the web
  page and collect informations and feedback. There is actually
  a whole lot of things that we can do since we could in the next
  week or so insert CGI scripts on the server. Of course that depends
  on my skills level in CGI scripting. We need also ask for permission
  from other KCA members and may need to proceed step by step.
  Anyway, my idea of using the kamching domain to do some
  meaningful things is actually one way of extending the kamching
  spirit, at least or only possible in the Cyberspace.
 

Best regards,
 
Man Keung
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From: Charles Lam
 Sent: Sunday, August 20
 Subject: extending the kamching spirit in the Cyberspace

       Dear Man Keung,

       Re. Hak Wing/Shun--I met him yesterday; it was in fact his birthday party.
       He is flying back home on Sunday. He sent his regards to all Kamching
       brothers and sisters. I have told him to give me Hak Shun's exact address
       (he didn't have it that night). He has not used emails yet. He told me that
       Hak Shun is working seven days a week managing his own restaurant i.e.
       extremely busy.

       Re. Ka Yun's article--I just talked to her over the phone. Her article was
       completed some time ago. She will chase again the person who is now
       keying in the Chinese words for her. It seems that Ka Lun has already sent
       you a photo through email. However, we will remind him again.

       Re. the Kamching.com  (and our websites attached to it)--I can continue
       the way I am setting up my websites without changing the names from the
       current /clam, /cclam, /mclam. Please advise what could be the advantages
       for changing.

       Are you conducting financial transactions through your websites, as you
       mentioned 'subscribers'?

       What I need most currently are their ability to run electronic forums, and the
       counters. The current strategy is to attract more people to visit the sites,
       then trigger them to communicate with me, and then if appropriate, business
       opportunities--(e-) tutoring, writing, consulting, etc. I need to learn more
       about financial transactions through the web; not only the technical part, but
       also legal and security aspects.

       As we discussed earlier, I agree to a step by step approach and the need to
       consult KCA members, when personal websites are used to conduct
       business. As you and I have launched the websites first, let's share more on
       the 'shoulds' and 'shouldnots'.

       regards,

       Charles
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Subject: extending the kamching spirit in the Cyberspace
From: clement chui
Date: 20 August 2000
 

  Dear Kam Wah,
 
(1) Ka Lun might have emailed me his photo. But it's not in my new hard disk. Please advise
 him to send me another one, just to save me time searching through my old hard disk.

  (2) The advantage of setting up a virtual web domain is to give other people the impression
  of  an independent domain (eg weblearning, chistory or classical chinese etc) rather than a
  personal web site. The address is also easier to remember. In your case, you may keep to your
  personal web address. When you are about to launch a special forum on telecom education then you
  might want to set up an extra web address such as http://infosociety.kamching.com
  Actually that's only another top level directory on the kamching web site. If you want to
  advertise your name you may call your web address as http://clam.kamching.com

  (3) I'm not going to conduct any transaction of my web design business on kamching's
  domain. That's not needed. I might create my own Chinese learning web site but still I need not
  implement credit card payment over the net. If I'm going to charge people some fees, they could fill in
  the form over the net and then deposit the amount into my bank account and fax the receipt to me.
  Then I have to implement subscriber log in, of which I need Dollarhost to set it up for a small
  amount of setup and monthly surcharge. I'll consider that option after October. I still have to find out
  whether I could create interactive programs on the web.

  Regards,
 
Man Keung

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Subject: ready to implement message board and web counter
    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000
   From: Charles Lam

Dear Man Keung,

The teaching package has already been published and sent to 450 secondary schools. Therefore, my name has already been known in relevant fields. However, the package has not been consumed as much as I (and the WG) have hoped, mainly because:
-most teachers are too busy to explore what considered new areas
-there is no such school subject yet called: information society changes/impacts

The WG  has recently submitted a letter (signed by me) to the Education Commission suggesting it as a key learning area. If accepted, the popularity of the teaching package and other similar books will tremendously increase.

I am searching for ways for regularly submitting (web-based) articles on information society education, hopefully for the tertiary sector. Information society things change so quickly that a book(s) on various topics may not be the best way. I was also told that one has to finance the publishing by himself. People who need insights on how things that happen from time to time could affect them/their organisations, could find these contemporary articles useful.

Regarding luck, I have got such to have the teaching package published and the platform to do a mini-revolution. What I need is the wisdom and luck to make some of my thoughts revenue-earning ones. Your ongoing support and advice will be appreciated.

regards,

Charles